AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/5/18

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/27/18

Postby JennyHannan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:54 am

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this topic. I know for a fact that Doc has the rankings just about ready to release to the coaches for final input.

As those of you who have done your own rankings can see, it’s quite an undertaking to rank these wrestlers based on online results. Now, add to that 28 total weight classes to rank, and then take into consideration that Doc is still recovering from a major medical issue this past spring.

These past few months have shown me how much I truly appreciate all the work Doc, Mary Kay, and the boys put into this website. There’s no other state wrestling website that can hold a candle to it in my opinion. Thank you, Miller Family, for all you do for West Virginia Wrestling.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/27/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:26 pm

Updated 160 to reflect Hinzman over Carman.
I think 113 stays the same- as Gray pinned Tirpak, Tirpak lost 5-4 to Sabin and Sabin teched Hobbs.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/27/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:27 pm

KennyFPowers wrote:I may have missed a few results and feel free to discuss and I will go back and correct, but these are based on head to head, common opponent, tournament results thus far, and 2017 state/region finish.




wt. rank name school
106 1 Donahue Parkersburg
106 2 Dolan Spring Mills
106 3 Stockett University
106 4 Hartley Saint Albans
106 5 Hoover Greenbrier East
106 6 Easton South

113 1 Holt Saint Albans
113 2 Bowen Huntington
113 3 Miller Ripley
113 4 Johnson South
113 5 Gray John Marshall
113 6 Locke Washington

120 1 Windland South
120 2 Staud University
120 3 Richardson Wheeling Park
120 4 Harper Spring Valley
120 5 Dotson Spring Mills
120 6 Viars Huntington

126 1 Roberts South
126 2 Miller Musselman
126 3 Simpson University
126 4 Adkins Huntington
126 5 Lorea George Washington
126 6 Taylor Hurricane

132 1 Quiocho South
132 2 Moler Parkersburg
132 3 Gooch Wheeling Park
132 4 Dempsey Huntington
132 5 Petry Riverside
132 6 E. Bailey Saint Albans

138 1 Best Parkersburg
138 2 Martin South
138 3 Bailey Saint Albans
138 4 Vaughan Cabell Midland
138 5 Cutright Buck-Up
138 6 Pauley University

145 1 Carder Parkersburg
145 2 Zeiders University
145 3 Collins South
145 4 Burdette Ripley
145 5 Long Hurricane
145 6 Isabell George Washington

152 1 Humphreys South
152 2 Hobbs Greenbrier East
152 3 Thomas Hurricane
152 4 Neale Cabell Midland
152 5 King Parkersburg
152 6 Edwards Huntington


160 1 Nash Wheeling Park
160 2 Hinzman South
160 3 Carman John Marshall
160 4 Stewart Huntington
160 5 Holley Cabell Midland
160 6 Hefner Greenbrier East

170 1 Pine Washington
170 2 Starkey Ripley
170 3 Simpkins Wheeling Park
170 4 Parde Huntington
170 5 Casto Saint Albans
170 6 Burnett Woodrow

182 1 Lanham Huntington
182 2 Dunbar South
182 3 Miller Preston
182 4 Thomas Greenbrier East
182 5 Nay Parkersburg
182 6 Bradbury Washington

195 1 Loew Wheeling Park
195 2 Swisher Hampshire
195 3 Stanley Spring Valley
195 4 Fischer Cabell Midland
195 5 Fullerton South
195 6 Wade Parkersburg

220 1 Amos South
220 2 Haynes Ripley
220 3 Wood Wheeling Park
220 4 Lunsford Hurricane
220 5 Williams George Washington
220 6 Holbrook Cabell Midland

285 1 Haga South
285 2 Porter Spring Valley
285 3 Swafford Woodrow
285 4 Chapman Riverside
285 5 Sherrard Hedgesville
285 6 Kincaid George Washington

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/27/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:35 pm

JennyHannan wrote:Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this topic. I know for a fact that Doc has the rankings just about ready to release to the coaches for final input.

As those of you who have done your own rankings can see, it’s quite an undertaking to rank these wrestlers based on online results. Now, add to that 28 total weight classes to rank, and then take into consideration that Doc is still recovering from a major medical issue this past spring.

These past few months have shown me how much I truly appreciate all the work Doc, Mary Kay, and the boys put into this website. There’s no other state wrestling website that can hold a candle to it in my opinion. Thank you, Miller Family, for all you do for West Virginia Wrestling.



Jenny, I couldn't agree more. There are no other states sites that cover high school wrestling like WVMAT. This site is a one stop shop for getting information on just about anything related to WV wrestling; both past and present.

Heck, one can even find the WSAZ seeding criteria if they were willing to search for it ;)

Seeding is done by committee.

WSAZ High School Seeding Criteria
Criteria #1. 2017-2018 HEAD TO HEAD RESULT
Criteria #2. 2017-2018 WIN AGAINST COMMON OPPONENT(S)
Criteria #3. 2017 STATE CHAMP
Criteria #4. 2017 STATE PLACER
Criteria #5. 2017 STATE QUALIFIER
Criteria #6. 2017 WSAZ TOURNAMENT CHAMP
Criteria #7. 2017 WSAZ TOURNAMENT PLACER
Criteria #8. 2017-18 (current season) VARSITY RECORD ** (use also for freshmen) (Win 50 % of matches or better will only be considered)

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby thatguycc » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:45 pm

Chase Steven won by Dec over Bradbury

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby mscoach64 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:57 pm

i see a kid named Zane Hinzman in the AAA rankings. I'll admit that i do not follow AAA hardly at all. A few years ago when i was coaching middle school wrestling there was a boy from Ritchie Co whose last name was Hinzman and I am almost certain his first name was Zane. Does anyone know if this is the same kid. I remember him being really good at Ritchie.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby pkbwrestling » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:35 pm

mscoach64 wrote:i see a kid named Zane Hinzman in the AAA rankings. I'll admit that i do not follow AAA hardly at all. A few years ago when i was coaching middle school wrestling there was a boy from Ritchie Co whose last name was Hinzman and I am almost certain his first name was Zane. Does anyone know if this is the same kid. I remember him being really good at Ritchie.


Not sure if this is sarcasm, but yes.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby mscoach64 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:49 pm

pkbwrestling wrote:
mscoach64 wrote:i see a kid named Zane Hinzman in the AAA rankings. I'll admit that i do not follow AAA hardly at all. A few years ago when i was coaching middle school wrestling there was a boy from Ritchie Co whose last name was Hinzman and I am almost certain his first name was Zane. Does anyone know if this is the same kid. I remember him being really good at Ritchie.


Not sure if this is sarcasm, but yes.
No sarcasm. Honestly just asking.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/27/18

Postby Bearhugger » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:53 pm

KennyFPowers wrote:
JennyHannan wrote:Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this topic. I know for a fact that Doc has the rankings just about ready to release to the coaches for final input.

As those of you who have done your own rankings can see, it’s quite an undertaking to rank these wrestlers based on online results. Now, add to that 28 total weight classes to rank, and then take into consideration that Doc is still recovering from a major medical issue this past spring.

These past few months have shown me how much I truly appreciate all the work Doc, Mary Kay, and the boys put into this website. There’s no other state wrestling website that can hold a candle to it in my opinion. Thank you, Miller Family, for all you do for West Virginia Wrestling.



Jenny, I couldn't agree more. There are no other states sites that cover high school wrestling like WVMAT. This site is a one stop shop for getting information on just about anything related to WV wrestling; both past and present.

Heck, one can even find the WSAZ seeding criteria if they were willing to search for it ;)

Seeding is done by committee.

WSAZ High School Seeding Criteria
Criteria #1. 2017-2018 HEAD TO HEAD RESULT
Criteria #2. 2017-2018 WIN AGAINST COMMON OPPONENT(S)
Criteria #3. 2017 STATE CHAMP
Criteria #4. 2017 STATE PLACER
Criteria #5. 2017 STATE QUALIFIER
Criteria #6. 2017 WSAZ TOURNAMENT CHAMP
Criteria #7. 2017 WSAZ TOURNAMENT PLACER
Criteria #8. 2017-18 (current season) VARSITY RECORD ** (use also for freshmen) (Win 50 % of matches or better will only be considered)


Mr. Powers, please advise where the WSAZ seeding criteria can be found to save all of us some time. I suspect many readers other than me would like to view this. Thank you
Holy smokes. Braxton Amos works out with a landmine now!!!!!!

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:02 pm

Bearhugger,
WSAZ seeding criteria has been discussed many times in years past. The search feature in the top right will bring up some old posts where the question was answered.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:07 pm

Updated to reflect 182- Stevens over Bradbury

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby Bearhugger » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:10 pm

KennyFPowers wrote:Bearhugger,
WSAZ seeding criteria has been discussed many times in years past. The search feature in the top right will bring up some old posts where the question was answered.


Ok, I found the "search" area and found and "brought back" a discussion topic from 2016 where the WSAZ criteria was discussed. See "WSAZ Seeds" forum topic.

Thank you for digging into this topic.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby 69fan » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:54 am

thatguycc wrote:Chase Steven won by Dec over Bradbury


That’s true but Bradbury has pinned Nay of Parkersburg and beat Thomas of GE. 4-6 at 182 is super close

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby KDunbar » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:30 am

Is Gerald Hall of GW still going to be wrestling? He was at Winner's choice but not at WSAZ and MSAC. I didn't research of all his matches, but he did have a head to head victory of 10-5 over Dalton Fullerton of PS the one time they wrestled. I don't know if he has wrestled consistently enough to be ranked above Dalton or if he is injured and out for the year.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Based on results

Postby ArcherloverHWT » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:18 pm

KennyFPowers wrote:Individual and team updated post MSAC tournament.




132 #6 Petry, Riverside dec. 3-1 over #5 Bailey, St. Albans

152 #6 Thomas, Hurricane dec. 3-2 over #4 King, Parkersburg
#6 Thomas, Hurricane dec. 3-0 over #3 Neale, Cabell Midland

152 NR Edwards, Huntington dec. 10-6 over #6 Hall, Spring Valley


182 NR Nay, Parkersburg dec. 7-3 over #5 Stevens, Spring Valley

195 Stanley, Spring Valley drops down from 220 and dec. 3-2;SV1 over Fischer, Cabell Midland


220 Holbrook, Cabell Midland moves to #6 after Stanley move to 195

285 NR Kincaid, George Washington pin. Kelly, #6 Kelly, Huntington

Rose got 6 on Kincaid

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:47 pm

Rankings updated following posted results for Huntington @ CM on 1/30 and SV, Hurricane, Ripley @ CM on 1/31. Please let me know of any results I've missed from over the weekend or this week and I will update.

120- Salmons (CM) dec. Taylor 2-0 (Hurricane)
152 Hall (SV) pin Neale (CM)
152 Neale (CM) dec. Edwards (Huntington) 5-1


Hopefully, this has helped Doc and taken some of the burden off of him. These are based on results (hopefully accurate) and not subjective. I think it's fun to look through the results and have some idea on where kids "should" finish, but then watch them exceed expectations/predictions at the state tournament. Hard to believe we are one week from the regional tournament.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:29 pm

Updated to reflect Long (Hurricane) dec. 3-2 over Burdette (Ripley) in OT.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby guard0544 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:01 pm

KennyFPowers wrote:Rankings updated following posted results for Huntington @ CM on 1/30 and SV, Hurricane, Ripley @ CM on 1/31. Please let me know of any results I've missed from over the weekend or this week and I will update.

120- Salmons (CM) dec. Taylor 2-0 (Hurricane)
152 Hall (SV) pin Neale (CM)
152 Neale (CM) dec. Edwards (Huntington) 5-1


Hopefully, this has helped Doc and taken some of the burden off of him. These are based on results (hopefully accurate) and not subjective. I think it's fun to look through the results and have some idea on where kids "should" finish, but then watch them exceed expectations/predictions at the state tournament. Hard to believe we are one week from the regional tournament.


You need to adjust the team of 126 Salmons in the ranking

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:19 pm

Guard, thank you! Fixed

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 1/28/18

Postby aaacoach21 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:01 am

KDunbar wrote:Is Gerald Hall of GW still going to be wrestling? He was at Winner's choice but not at WSAZ and MSAC. I didn't research of all his matches, but he did have a head to head victory of 10-5 over Dalton Fullerton of PS the one time they wrestled. I don't know if he has wrestled consistently enough to be ranked above Dalton or if he is injured and out for the year.



Gerard Hall of GW is still wrestling. He wrestled at WSAZ and got a minor injury and to help with recovery we held him out of the MSAC. If all things go well he will back tomorrow at the Kanawha County Championships.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby Gator » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:46 am

Amazing what can be accomplished when people have great input and work together.
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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby Bearhugger » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:20 am

Gator wrote:Amazing what can be accomplished when people have great input and work together.


Indeed. Nobody is chiming in and telling us to stop and wait.
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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:24 pm

Updated on 2/2/18 to reflect Helms (Brooke) pin Thomas (Hurricane).

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/2/18

Postby Gator » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:18 pm

Going by the current rankings, you could possibly see 7 state final matches at the region 4 tournament.

Think the regions may be a little out of whack? :cry:
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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/2/18

Postby dontlikethelights » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:42 pm

From the old regions you would have only had 5 potential final matchups from Region I. 12/28 of the top 2 wrestlers in this poll are from the city of Parkersburg.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/5/18

Postby KennyFPowers » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:44 pm

Individual and Teams Updated 2/5/18- Murphy (Wheeling Park) pinned Easton (South) at OVAC duals.

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Re: AAA Individual Rankings- Updated 2/1/18

Postby guard0544 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:05 pm

KennyFPowers wrote:Updated on 2/2/18 to reflect Helms (Brooke) pin Thomas (Hurricane).


152 Maybe Elswick should be ahead of Helms since he defeated him 14-7.

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Missing Persons Report

Postby ZZChooseTop » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:43 am

I know the results are probably on track rasslin or Hillarys secret server but are Lambert from Hampshire and Moran from Martinsburg wrestling this year. I was looking at the high school all American list on this site and I thought it odd that two high school all Americans were not even thought of as being among the top 6 in their weight class in little ole wv but they're top 8 in the US of A? Maybe Regalbuto was right when he said the eastern panhandle kids don't get the respect they would get if they lived somewhere else. Is it possible it is their coaches fault for not sharing scores?

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Re: Missing Persons Report

Postby guard0544 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:19 am

ZZChooseTop wrote:I know the results are probably on track rasslin or Hillarys secret server but are Lambert from Hampshire and Moran from Martinsburg wrestling this year. I was looking at the high school all American list on this site and I thought it odd that two high school all Americans were not even thought of as being among the top 6 in their weight class in little ole wv but they're top 8 in the US of A? Maybe Regalbuto was right when he said the eastern panhandle kids don't get the respect they would get if they lived somewhere else. Is it possible it is their coaches fault for not sharing scores?


No need to act like WV wrestling is weak when making your case for them to be ranked. They both had 1 win and 2 losses and did not place in the “little ole WV” state tournament last year. But I could see reasons to have them #6 on the lists.


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